tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post3165208499111425117..comments2023-04-02T21:59:47.035-05:00Comments on The Ron Paul Survival Report: FAQ: Ron Paul and his Racist Newsletter (Updated)Ron Lawlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01086109227989407484noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-15960947771817121732008-04-30T05:58:00.000-05:002008-04-30T05:58:00.000-05:00Well, I'll say I'm impressed at how thorough this ...Well, I'll say I'm impressed at how thorough this article is... O_O<BR/><BR/>Although I detect some syllogisms of your own, for the most part you took a fairly rational approach to your assertions.<BR/><BR/>"Does Ron Paul hire a ghostwriter to write his legislation as well?"<BR/><BR/>I'll also admit this sardonic criticism was pretty funny. There was something else that made me laugh out loud but I lost it.<BR/><BR/>Cutting to the chase: I'm (still) a Ron Paul supporter and came across this in my meanderings. Surprised but curious to see what updates have arisen in this controversy.<BR/><BR/>As far as I can tell the point to this whole issue is to prove that Paul is a racist?<BR/><BR/>Well I've read all your points and even read some of those newsletters, and I, personally, am still not convinced. I'm willing to bite that <B>maybe</B> he didn't know the specific person for the specific piece, but he doesn't want to sell out <I>any</I> of his (racist?) friends. I think the most likely scenario is as Former described it, "At best, he is protecting his racist friend who wrote them."<BR/><BR/>So if you want to fault him for that, ok. I'm willing to concede that maybe Paul is TOO tolerant.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure why Former no longer supports Paul because of the actions of some, but it is truly unfortunate that Paul (and all movements?) attract a fanatical element. The fact that they would ban someone over an objection is preposterous. These people are a disservice to the movement and apparently are completely oblivious to how hypocritical they are being by contradicting the very principles they purportedly promote (freedom of speech).<BR/><BR/>I understand your position, and I'm not blind to the rabid/fanatical Paul defense legion. Assuming this post gets approved or goes through, I guess my question is, why all this animosity towards Paul? Let's assume the best case I mentioned above, is he really any more flawed than any other human or Presidential candidate for that matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-6406423259354644742008-02-07T18:42:00.000-06:002008-02-07T18:42:00.000-06:00Ok so now we know who the Ghost Writer is, and we ...Ok so now we know who the Ghost Writer is, and we know it wasn't Ron Paul. It's amazing how the media licked the feet of an arrogant, abortion friendly, gay friendly, cousin marrying cross dresser and all you guys had is some articles and a whole lot of speculation? wow, can we say we need to get our priorities in order?<BR/><BR/>Pfffft. <--A direct quote from Rush Limbaugh, this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-60732461875738056222008-01-11T19:06:00.000-06:002008-01-11T19:06:00.000-06:00Thanks for the tip, Clammy.To FormerPaulite: It's...Thanks for the tip, Clammy.<BR/><BR/>To FormerPaulite: It's amazing how the Ron Paul supporters don't seem to realize that simply spouting "He denied it, I believe him, end of discussion" will only work on already converted -- and sometimes not even then. And they wonder why their numbers aren't growing.Ron Lawlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086109227989407484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-7051082595067376742008-01-11T18:22:00.000-06:002008-01-11T18:22:00.000-06:00I find it hard to believe that Ron Paul is so inco...I find it hard to believe that Ron Paul is so incompetent that he has no idea who wrote his own newsletter.<BR/><BR/>Ron Paul might not be a racist, but his policies are, shall we say, racist-friendly.<BR/><BR/>His opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, for example, is one which is shard by racists everywhere.<BR/><BR/>This newsletter is going to follow Ron Paul like a stench until he says who the writer is.FuckRonPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112177899897152421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-37917223513288542322008-01-11T13:53:00.000-06:002008-01-11T13:53:00.000-06:00I was a Ron Paul supporter. I am not one anymore....I was a Ron Paul supporter. I am not one anymore. At the very worst, he himself is a racist and wrote the letters. At best, he is protecting his racist friend who wrote them, probably because he or she still works for the campaign. I posted my concerns on Ron Paul Forums and you know what happened? I was attacked, called names, ridiculed, and then BANNED by the administrator FOR LIFE, just for criticizing the campaign. I guess that proves all this stuff is the truth, but none of his supporters can own up to it, except a select few, including myself. I feel extremely betrayed, but I guess I should've known better. Doesn't mean I stop supporting his views on foreign policy, restoration of civil liberties, or some of his ideas on monetary policy, but I no longer support the individual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-75832239420211487262008-01-11T05:06:00.000-06:002008-01-11T05:06:00.000-06:00Great piece.This seems to be escaping most media, ...Great piece.<BR/><BR/>This seems to be escaping most media, but the New York Times also ran a blurb about Paul's newsletters in 1996, when Paul's opponent Greg Laughlin got ahold of the newsletter with the Barbara Jordan remarks. Note the very last sentence of the article, where Paul all but admits to writing the remarks.<BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>New York Times<BR/>TEXAS<BR/><BR/>Past Statements Haunt a Candidate<BR/><BR/>Ron Paul was largely a name from the past, a former Congressman and<BR/>onetime Presidential candidate of the Libertarian Party, until he upset one of the Republican Party's prized Democratic defectors, Representative Greg Laughlin, in the Texas primary elections in April. Now Mr. Paul is back in the limelight, and his past refuses to go away.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Paul's opponent has revealed a 1992 copy of a newsletter he<BR/>published in which he called the former Representative Barbara Jordan, a Democratic icon, "a fraud."<BR/><BR/> "Everything about her, from her imitation British accent to her<BR/>supposed expertise in law, to her distinguished career in public service, is made up," Mr. Paul wrote. He also said that Ms. Jordan, who died last January, was "the archetypical half-educated victimologist, yet her race<BR/>and sex protect her from criticism."<BR/><BR/> Mr. Paul's Democratic rival for the seat in the 14th District, which runs from the Gulf Coast south of Houston to near Austin, Charles Morris, pounced on the item, demanding the release of all back issues of the newsletter, "The Ron Paul Political Report."<BR/><BR/> The newsletter, which Mr. Paul began about 1985, has claimed more than 7,000 subscribers; Mr. Paul said releasing it and other writings over his 20 years of political activity was "impractical."<BR/><BR/> As for his remarks about Ms. Jordan, who was black, Mr. Paul said he was laying out a philosophical difference.<BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>Found at <A HREF="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.congress/browse_thread/thread/3910503bfbed336c/3cf5d7b20c4fb802?hl=en&lnk=st&q=Ron+Paul#3cf5d7b20c4fb802" REL="nofollow">this link</A>, but probably easily found in the NYT archives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-4346527973859477482008-01-09T04:28:00.000-06:002008-01-09T04:28:00.000-06:00Well, at least the summary makes some cogent point...Well, at least the summary makes some cogent points and shows some attempt at objectivity regarding this cloudy issue. I do believe that the facts of what happened are readily available, but this is a blog, and there is no point in just listing the facts. There is justifiably a lot of emotion surrounding these important issues, and we all have to swim through the muck in order to get at the truth. Realistically, we will all make our own, personal, conclusions. On the important points in the conclusion of this post, I notice a pattern of cleverly worded innuendo that takes the scant information (facts)provided in the post and spins them into one person's opinion. I'm happy to see this discussion taking place, because the question of whether or not Ron Paul is a racist is hugely important. There are a lot of supporters and I would think we all deserve clear answers to these questions in order to continue our support. Those of you who have already made up your minds to not support Dr. Paul are not going to be swayed regardless of the outcome of this 'controversy'. I still can't see through this smokescreen, and I'm definitely rooting for Dr. Paul, but if it turns out that the man is the racist psychopath that so many of you seem to think he is, I will most certainly not continue my support for him, nor will the vast majority of those currently in his camp. The sad fact is that the alternatives are much, much worse...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00863371122256940745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-46650017802301747332008-01-09T03:04:00.000-06:002008-01-09T03:04:00.000-06:00While I agree with most of your points, for #13 yo...While I agree with most of your points, for #13 your estimate of 40 hours is very very very low for a full-time OB/GYN, especially back then. A lot of doctors worked triple digit hours back then.<BR/>Even today the average workweek for an OB/GYN is 61 hours.<BR/>That said, I think he knew exactly what was in those newsletters, and probably wrote them himself. But his overworked and never saw it excuse is somewhat more plausible if he was juggling congress and 60 hour workweeks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-53162183372241778192008-01-01T16:16:00.000-06:002008-01-01T16:16:00.000-06:00Ron Paul mentions Walter Williams, A BLACK MAN, as...Ron Paul mentions Walter Williams, A BLACK MAN, as a potential running mate in a recent Washington Post interview. Don't forget to add this to your FAQ...Fred Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17489758749297273224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-81037881449811212342007-12-30T17:27:00.000-06:002007-12-30T17:27:00.000-06:00You should really try to get someone else to donat...You should really try to get someone else to donate and scan in the rest of the survivalist papers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-57825471707266919952007-12-28T22:04:00.000-06:002007-12-28T22:04:00.000-06:00It's hard to unlink someone who posts as anonymous...It's hard to unlink someone who posts as anonymous.<BR/><BR/>And "I heard via the rumor mill" doesn't add much to the discussion.Ron Lawlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086109227989407484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-68406678416388568582007-12-28T21:06:00.000-06:002007-12-28T21:06:00.000-06:00I do not want to be linked to this blog. How do I ...I do not want to be linked to this blog. How do I get unlinked?<BR/><BR/>By the way, via the rumor mill, I heard that Eric Dondero is the author of the offensive articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-51475393821599081042007-12-28T19:11:00.000-06:002007-12-28T19:11:00.000-06:00Why doesn't Ron Paul just release the name of the ...Why doesn't Ron Paul just release the name of the ghostwriter and put the issue to rest?<BR/><BR/>Oh, that's right - because he's a weasel.FuckRonPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112177899897152421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-9386645146586979522007-12-28T15:57:00.000-06:002007-12-28T15:57:00.000-06:00eric dondero claims he wasn't fired. i certainly d...eric dondero claims he wasn't fired. i certainly don't want to slander him, but someone else once wrote :<BR/><BR/>As another former Ron Paul staffer, who worked in the same office with Eric. I can tell you definitely. Eric was fired because he never came to work. When he did come to work, he slept on a nasty couch which we burned after he left. <BR/><BR/>Eric is a digruntled former employee that developed many bad habits over the years and numero uno was slothfullness.<BR/><BR/><BR/>and dondero replied:<BR/><BR/>Yes, the poster above is correct. I did sleep on a couch in my office from time to time. <BR/><BR/>http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>and Dr. Paul said he fired dondero on national tv. if he really slandered your good name (well, your name) this should be a great chance to hurt him, and show he can not be trusted. if you don't use this opportunity, we can only assume is because you really were fired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-51725174673606309192007-12-28T13:50:00.000-06:002007-12-28T13:50:00.000-06:00Maybe you should take it up with your former boss ...Maybe you should take it up with your former boss Eric?<BR/><BR/>From a Reason magazine interview with Ron Paul (http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html):<BR/><BR/>Reason: Your former staffer Eric Dondero is challenging you for your House seat in 2008.<BR/><BR/>Paul: He's a disgruntled former employee who was <B>fired.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-449606627589080490.post-70104079934107299402007-12-28T07:13:00.000-06:002007-12-28T07:13:00.000-06:00To correct the record:1. I was not fired. Anyone ...To correct the record:<BR/><BR/>1. I was not fired. Anyone who claims so is engaging in slander.<BR/><BR/>2. It's a documented fact that Lew Rockwell ghostwrote that quote as he ghostwrites much of Ron Paul's stuff. This was reported by the media in Ron Paul's 1996 Congressional campaign. Lew even owned up to it. For a while there, Lew and Ron weren't on speaking terms over it. <BR/><BR/>I cannot believe there's any rumors about this at all. It's a fact. Someone just needs to ask Rockwell himself. He'll tell you the truth. <BR/><BR/>Ron will, as well.Eric Donderohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02763399145451696076noreply@blogger.com